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Posted 02 May 2008
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Is this development such a bad thing?

If I were to believe what I have read in the leaflet pushed through my door urging me to opose this developement, I would be locking up my womenfolk for fear of the onslaught of the wrath of 4000 HFC supporters about to descend on our quiet neighbourhood.

These marauding hun are here to pillage our environment, leaving piles of litter everywhere.

These drunken yobs will be fighting in the streets everynight, fans urinating in my garden, more cars than on the M25 in the rush hour, parking restrictions for residents, the list goes on and on.

That's before all the Rock Festivals start, with their 20 lorry loads of roadies and equipment.


Wow......Now let's all calm down for a minute and take a reality check.


This is Horsham not Wembley or Old Trafford.

I have a work colleague who has lived in Queensway for the nearly 40 years. His house backs on to the current ground.  They play every other Saturday afternoon and every other Tuesday evening. During the few hours a week when games are played he say's that he hardly notices any noise, especially for the evening games, save for the occasional cheer when they score. Similar levels of noise come from the adjacent YMCA ground.

The rest of the time you could hear a pin drop....  if it wasn't for all the birds singing. The football club have been the perfect neighbours and he will be sad to see them leave.... and is dreading the 80 or so houses which are to be built in it's place.

He has never heard bad language, never seen or heard of anyone fighting and has certainly never caught anyone going to toilet in his garden (although he does have some very fine roses).

This is leafy Horsham, West Sussex. 

The people that attend these matches and run the club are also no doubt from our town, attending the same schools, shops and churches as everyone else. Ok there are travelling supporters from other clubs, who may not be fully aware of our local custom of bladder retention when passing someone's garden, but hey ho, that can equally happen from someone attending one of the Rock Tribute bands that regularly play at the Holbrook club on Friday or Saturday nights or a reveller from a party or other function.

 If you look on the Horsham club website it gives the crowd figures.  They seem to have between 300 or 700 on a Saturday, with mid week attendances between 100 - 200. Nothing like the 4000 claimed.  Yes they did have over 3000 at the Swansea Sky game and yes I did sit in the Holbrook Club cheering them on. But I wasn't the only one and this is the only time I have ever heard mention of Horsham on the TV, so we can count this crowd as an exception to the rule rather than the norm. Certainly on par with the Bonfire night firework displays at the Holbrook Club. 

Think of how many people currently attend the football tournaments and model train shows at the Holbrook club and the resulting parking nightmares that go with it.  The plans show an additional 100 or so parking spaces are planned. 
That has to be a good thing doesn't it?
Why didn't the Holbrook club think of doing that years ago?

I presume that the image on the cover of the leaflet is meant to be the Horsham mascot?  My daughter met Howard the Hornet in the park last month, when he was running the Sport Relief race for charity. He bears no resemblance to the mean aggressive looking wasp on the cover of the leaflet and seems quite a pleasant chap and is great with the kids. He is always in the county times doing something or other for charity or to promote the club.
 

Looking at the plans, I see it more as an extension of the Holbrook facilities. No worse than if the Holbrook Club were to develop the existing facilities for their own use, by putting in floodlighting and a few seats for spectators.   With current modern floodlight technology, the lights point downwards, are non intrusive and certainly do not resemble WW2 searchlights looking for the Luftwaffe.
 
I really believe that we will not even notice that the football club are there and would hope that they plan to be there for 100 years or so, meaning there is zero chance of 500 houses ever being built at the end of my garden in ten years time. 
 

I for one support this plan


Charlie

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Posted 03 May 2008
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Dear Holbrook residents

The post from Charlie Drake Close is a reality check which I hope you will all take on board. Having the football club on your doorstep may sound like a bad idea, but in practice it wouldn't really impinge on you at all (ask the residents of Gorings Mead and Queensway, or anyone who drives down the Brighton Road on a current match day). It would also guarantee that you won't have a massive housing estate at the end of your gardens, which is what will probably happen in a few years time if the only organisation in the district capable of maintaining the Holbrook as a recreational facility is not allowed to do so. If you don't believe me, look at Plough Lane, former home of Wimbledon FC. No longer viable as a sports facility, it was redesignated brown land by Merton Council (despite a covenant supposedly guaranteeing its recreational status), and now has hundreds of houses on it. Is this what you want?

Various of you have asked why the club does not relocate to an out of town site. Well, on three occasions they have tried, and each time they were rejected...because they were out of town sites!

I'd also add that we middle-aged men who make up a large proportion of the crowd at HFC (in the company of our kids) would find the way we are being described by you as funny...if it were not so sad - and insulting.

Finally, you might actually come to the games, and see why HFC is so dear to the hearts of its fans, much more than just a football club.

Of course, if none of this convinces you, perhaps there's a multimillionaire amongst your number who would buy back the Queen Street ground from Persimmon (who have ironically just declared a moratorium on new home building), and gift it to the club, along with the further seven- figure sum needed to renovate the place. Now there's a solution which would make everyone happy!
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